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Inside Source Claims “Shooting Bigfoot” Documentary Climax is Just a Big Hoax

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Since the Sasquatch hunting documentary Shooting Bigfoot premiered at Toronto’s “Hot Docs” festival this week, the cryptozoological community has been buzzing with widespread allegations that the film wasn’t so much a documentary as it was science fiction, but all they had to base their opinions on were a few broken promises, previous hoaxes, and inconclusive footage.. until now.

Thanks to the investigative prowess of J.R. Bob Dobbs Jr, a man involved in the filming of the movie has come forward claiming that infamous Bigfoot hunter (and hoaxer) Rick Dyer and director Morgan Matthews coordinated an elaborate hoax for the film’s climactic scene, a tense moment during which Dyer has long claimed to have actually shot and killed a Sasquatch.

Dobbs met up with Jeff, a squatter who appears prominently in the film as a “weird homeless guy”, but as it turns out.. was actually part of the crew tasked with being a “lookout” during the pivotal “Bigfoot killing” scene.

“They had me right on that hill back there watching for people… they radioed in letting me know before they did anything, so I knew what was going on,”  he tells Dobbs, adding that he had to walk in and out of the camp all night, and there wasn’t a Squatch in sight.

dyershootingDobbs’ offscreen partner tells Jeff that internet commentators were picking apart the film’s final scene, saying, “at the end you see some sort of scuffle and Rick with his gun, and then Morgan Matthews, the director, gets knocked over by something.. can’t really tell what’s going on, and then at the end he’s in a hospital. Doesn’t really explain what happened to him.”

“Did you see him beat up or anything like that?” she asked.

“He actually walked out of here just fine, got in the truck, put everything away – he was carrying at least 80 pounds of gear, at least… I can tell you right now, all the shooting and stuff like that is staged.”

Jeff went on to mention that the money shot was actually filmed multiple times and that Dyer’s gun wasn’t even firing live ammunition, a fact that would certainly make it hard to kill a Bigfoot, unless they’re just sensitive to loud noises.

This, and the fact that there is no body shown in the film, haven’t stopped Rick Dyer from continuing to press forward, claiming that the dead body is in storage and will be revealed in August.

I’ll admit, when I first heard of the claims in Shooting Bigfoot, I thought it odd that a man who was so prominently involved in one of the Biggest Bigfoot hoaxes ever would be making such huge claims a second time around, but I’m a pretty middle of the road guy and was willing to wait it out and see. After all, I had spent some time shooting Planet Weird with two of the film’s other principals, the loveable Bigfoot hunters Dallas and Wayne.

While my experiences with the dynamic squatching duo were absolutely incredible, the two were entirely adamant about their no-kill stance on Bigfoot (Dallas claims the big guy saved his life once via a well-timed heimlich maneuver), though it would seem that now, a scant six months later, they’ve completely changed their tune, hailing Dyer as a hero for unloading on the beast.

Something is most definitely up, and I highly doubt it’s the Sasquatch mortality rate.

You can watch the entire interview with Jeff below, and be sure to let me know what you think about the controversy surrounding Shooting Bigfoot. Did Dyer hunt down a wild man of the woods, or is this simply the second time he’s attempted to fool the world with the same trick? Share your thoughts on our Facebook page, tweet us @WhoForted, or leave a comment below!

Greg Newkirk

Greg Newkirk

Senior Editor at Who Forted
Documentary film-maker, professional monster chaser, and mystery monger, Greg is the senior editor for Who Forted? 'Zine. When he's not occupied by writing about the wide world of the weird, he's busy directing and editing documentary films like The Bigfoot Hunter: Still Searching or writing about offbeat travel for Roadtrippers. He's currently in production on his new project: an original documentary web series titled Planet Weird. He currently lives in Cincinnati.
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29 Comments

  1. Pete Berg

    05/03/2013 at 6:09 AM

    So…have you actually seen “Shooting Bigfoot”? This article makes me think that you haven’t seen it or missed the point of the doc entirely. I saw it yestersay at Hot Docs.

    The filmmaker Morgan Michaels is incredibly skeptical the entire movie and never believes that Bigfoot is real. He follows these crazy Bigfoot hunters and and wants to see what their motivations are for perpetrating this hoax (implying that they are doing it for money and fame)…it’s hilarious because the entire film is making fun of his subjects, not buying into their elaborate ruse. You don’t seem to reflect this in your article — this is a skeptical doc shooting down the Bigfoot myth.

    Now — the final scene where a “bigfoot” chases down the camera and beats up Morgan. The director Morgan Matthews says in the movie that the Bigfoot at the end was a guy in a suit…but he implies that this was Rick Dyer’s desperate last ditch attempt save face and prove Morgan wrong…Morgan makes it look like Rick was at wit’s end and he had a friend dress up as bigfoot and run around at night, and attack Morgan. The scenes leading up to this are The deterioration of Morgan and Rick’s relationship…Morgan is not buying into any of Rick’s claims that they are getting close to Bigfoot, and Rick is getting increasing angry at Morgan because his (lame) attempts at planting evidence are not working. So in petty desperation, Rick starts fucking with Morgan, trying to scare him. Morgan gets increasingly guarded around this crazy man. This ultimately leads to Rick calling some friend to put on a Bigfoot suit and scare Morgan.

    The way the scene comes across is that Rick Dyer goes off the deep end it’s his Hail Mary attempt to convince Morgan that there is a Bigfoot. It backfires and the next scene we are is the following morning, Rick fighting with Morgan trying to get the tape and Morgan pissed because this guy actually had a guy in a Bigfoot suit come and beat him up….the straw that broke the Carmel’s back. We see Morgan on the airplane heading home, his relationship with Rick is over after this. The end.

    Never is it implied that the Bigfoot attack at the end of the movie is by a real Bigfoot.

    That said, was the whole Rick Dyer SEQUENCE fake? Was Rick acting and were the scenes of him gradually getting pissed off and desperate and mistrusting of Morgan as Morgan refuses to buy into any of his evidence (like “oh, Bigfoot ate the ribs I hung in that tree…he must be close.”). Was that all made up? Very possibly. It would be disappointing to me if this was the case, because this sequence of Rick gradually losing his marbles and getting pissed at Morgan was great film. But it is hard to believe that a guy would actually get pushed that far — to actually have a friend beat up the filmmaker in the middle of the night dressed up as Bigfoot.

  2. the paraclete

    05/03/2013 at 6:35 AM

    Why do you think that people who seem to take Bigfoot hunting personally, such as Dallas and Wayne, would consent to participate in a hoax? (If there’s a reason outside the obvious: money and fame.) It’s just kinda sad.

    • Pete Berg

      05/03/2013 at 11:52 AM

      Dallas and Wayne had nothing to do with the Rick Dyers segment (where the fake Bigfoot appeared). The three different Bigfoot hunter stories (Dallas & Wayne, Tom and Rick) were intercut, but the teams never had any interaction with each other in the documentary.

      • the paraclete

        05/03/2013 at 12:26 PM

        That’s good to know, thanks.

        • Pete Berg

          05/03/2013 at 12:50 PM

          My take on Dallas and Wayne is that they are authentic and genuine in their Bigfoot search, but also very naive and uncritical. They want to believe so badly that they will spot Bigfoot in any dark blurry spot in a photo or any noise they hear in the woods. It’s like a religion for them. Dallas and Wayne are telling the truth…at least their interpretation of the truth.

          Rick and Tom, on the other hand, are known hoaxers and seem to be intentionally deceptive throughout the film,

  3. Pete Berg

    05/03/2013 at 7:45 AM

    After reading a bit more, I am very disappointed in what would have been a great film had the ending not been faked.

    Here is what I think happened (note that this is all pure speculation):

    Morgan Matthews spends months filming a skeptical documentary about Bigfoot hunters, with the aim of making them look ridiculous and exposing their hoaxes.

    He has got a lot of footage in the can, but doesn’t have an ending for his film. There’s no payoff – which is one of two things, see a Bigfoot or expose a hoax.

    He is following Rick Dyers, who is a known hoaxer and is desperately trying to fix his image. Morgan has spent a long time filming Rick’s failed attempts and Rick is getting mad at Morgan because he’s starting to realize that this film is going to make him look stupid. (Rick, however, doesn’t realize that the entire point of the film is to poke fun at him.)

    Here’s where things get weird and I think where Matthews messed up bigtime. Rick and Morgan probably had a candid conversation and decided that they should fake the ending scene with a guy in a Bigfoot suit. Morgan’s intentions are to expose Rick as a bumbling hoaxer who got desperate enough to have a friend in a suit actually assault him, the filmmaker, to prove that Bigfoot is real. Rick, on the other hand, thinks that he finally convinced the filmmaker to give him his big break, join him on the hoax, and give him credibility (and the potential for a big payday).

    So they shoot the final scene…fake it. Multiple takes, firing blanks from the gun, guy in a suit, Morgan being “attacked”… Rick plays it as if he is shooting the Bigfoot and finally killing it! This is the scene Rick Dyers has been waiting for. Morgan plays it up so that he is angry and skeptical at Rick. What Rick doesn’t know is that Morgan is going to make it look like Rick duped him in the edit…but also leave it vague enough so that the viewer can draw their own conclusions.

    One problem. There’s the homeless kid in the camp next door, and he can hear the gunshots. They have to let him in on it, otherwise he is going to either call the police because of the gunshots, walk into the scene as they’re filming it (to investigate), or go and observe and find out it’s fake. So they have to give him a walkie talkie and at least let them know there will be gunshots and not to be alarmed. They figure he’s just a homeless kid, no big deal. He’ll never see the film and doesn’t have a computer, so no harm if he knows.

    Now after the big final scene, there might have been more filming where Rick actually shot the Bigfoot and “found the body.” The hoax continues. Morgan films it, knowing that he is never going to use this footage. They wrap. Filming is over. Everyone’s happy…almost.

    Rick is excited because he thinks the film will make him out as a hero who actually killed a Bigfoot. He and Morgan get in an argument about giving him a copy of the tape, which Rick thinks he deserves since they collaborated on the hoax.

    Morgan finally has an ending for his film. But of course he doesn’t give Rick the footage or tell Rick his intention of making him look like an idiot hoaxer in the edit.

    So as Morgan is editing, Rick gets antsy and jumps the gun, announcing that he killed a Bigfoot and it will be revealed on film soon in “Shooting Bigfoot”!

    He claims that he has a body and that the filmmaker saw it happened and even helped him load the deaf Bigfoot into his truck. Morgan has no choice but to deny this and discredit Rick. (See the CBC interview with Morgan from the other day.). Morgan figures he’s in the clear, because Rick is a habitual liar and can easily blow it off.

    At the Q&A at Hot Docs premiere, Morgan says that none of the subjects have seen the film yet. Rick included. As far as Rick knows, the end of the film is him killing Bigfoot. But this is not the case.

    And so here we are, after 3 public screenings of the film.

    One problem. The Homeless Kid. What Morgan didn’t expect was that the day after the film premieres, someone goes to interview him, he spills the beans, and puts the video online.

    I’m looking forward to hearing Morgan’s response to this. I think he’s sweating it right now.

    • Roberta

      05/14/2013 at 8:11 PM

      Pete Berg….that is the BEST theory I’ve heard yet. Absolute genius! I’m willing to bet that it went down exactly as you’ve written. Great job.

    • Rebel

      05/15/2013 at 4:09 AM

      Uh, Rick has never said that Morgan helped him load anything into a truck…Rick said Morgan left that night (they loaded the body early the next morning). Also, Morgan has NEVER said that it was a guy in a suit. Where are you getting your B.S. information from?

      • Pete Berg

        05/15/2013 at 7:46 AM

        First off, one of the final lines of the movie (after the “bigfoot” appearance), Morgan says “The viewer could reasonably assume that I was attacked by a man in a suit.” That is a line IN THE FILM!

        Secondly, the entire Rick Dyers storyline is edited to show that Rick Dyers is a desperate hoaxer. From scene one, he is established as a hoaxer just trying to make money on the bigfoot myth (Morgan opens the movie with footage of the fake bigfoot carcass he made a few years ago). Then he is made to look like a fool through the entire movie. If Morgan wanted to give Rick an ounce of credibility, he would have edited this film very differently.

        Through the final act of the movie, Morgan IMPLIES that Rick Dyers has gone off his rocker and is preparing to hoax him. For instance, the scene where Rick picks up his flashlight and high power rifle in the middle of the night and claims “I just saw a little girl wearing a dress out in the forest!” Cut to Morgan in the tent, confessing that he thinks that RIck is acting very oddly, and seems to just be trying to scare him at this point. Morgan also shows several scenes where Rick is texting/contacting someone in the outside world, and Rick refuses to say who he is contacting or why (it is implied he is secretly “setting something up” and trying to conceal it). We also see the scene where Rick hangs pig ribs from a tree, they disappear the next morning (“bigfoot must have got them!”) and then a few days later, the rotted, ant-covered pig ribs are thrown on Morgan’s sleeping bag in his tent. Morgan accuses Rick of doing this to prank / haze him…and it also invalidates another piece of “evidence” that Rick presents that there is a bigfoot in the woods.

        Obviously when Morgan does press interviews about the film, he’s going to play coy and imply that he might have found something — this is SO THAT PEOPLE GO WATCH THE MOVIE! It’s a marketing ploy. Once you watch the film, it is very clear that his interpretation of the events is that Rick Dyers hoaxed him…and not only that, got a friend to dress up as bigfoot and beat him up.

        • Greg Newkirk

          05/15/2013 at 8:06 AM

          But if what Jeff is saying is true.. that Morgan and Dyer in fact shot that scene several times, then it’s just as much of a hoax to imply that he was hoaxed. No matter what, something is fishy about the whole thing and it’s highly doubtful we’ll ever get the whole story.

          • Pete Berg

            05/15/2013 at 6:05 PM

            Exactly. Read my theory above.

            I think that Morgan was in on Rick’s hoax and helped facilitate it. Morgan needed a big blockbuster ending for his film, and knowing that it wouldn’t happen naturally, he worked with Rick to FAKE it.

            But if this fakery were revealed (and corroborated), it would DESTROY Morgan’s credibility as a documentary filmmaker.

            Morgan’s only option was to pretend like Rick had hoaxed him (and beat him up) — play the victim, and make Rick out to be the villain. This makes for a better film anyway…it’s not a film about finding Bigfoot, it’s about following a crazed Bigfoot hunter until he cracks and assaults the filmmaker to prove himself right.

            Morgan knows that Rick isn’t going to admit that the scene was a hoax (Rick is delusionally trying to use it to prove he found a bigfoot). Morgan also has to play coy and say he doesn’t really know what happened in the woods that night.

            The scenes right after the attack where Rick is asking to see the footage — that was probably real, but misconstrued. Rick wants to see the footage because they just did a take of the Bigfoot attack scene, and he wants to see how his performance was / if the suit was convincing. And the one the next morning where Rick is trying to bully Morgan for the copy of the tape — he wants it because he feels like he has some ownership in the footage, and he wants to use it for his own ends…release it to the Bigfoot community so that he can “prove” that he finally found a bigfoot.

      • Sas Quatch

        11/25/2013 at 2:54 PM

        Rebel,

        Are your mom and dad also brother and sister? Are you retarded? How many chromosomes are you missing?

        Anyone who begins any sort of written statement with “uh” can not be normal. I would hate to hear you speak, in person. It probably sounds like: Uh, ummm, well, uh, I uh, wonder where um, you, um, get dduh, um information.

        Rebel, please reply and tell me all about how smart you are and do not forget to state that if you were writing this for school or work, it would not have sounded retarded.

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  5. listener

    05/03/2013 at 2:02 PM

    The Fascinating part of this interview is that AT THE END. the kid says. that.. THEYRE IS SOMETHING DEFINITLY IN THE WOODS!

    • Big Jake

      05/05/2013 at 3:37 PM

      Problem is, this Kids story is ridiculous. He holds up a bunch of old, tarnished shell casings filled with dirt and an old fullmetal jacket bullet. This is obviously NOT ammunition that would have been left recently and fullmetal jacket ammo would not have been used by Mr. Dyer for hunting. Bogus story from this Kid.

  6. Mike

    05/05/2013 at 6:00 PM

    Jeff’s story is not consistent with his previous stories and the interviewer didn’t follow up on the inconsistencies for whatever reason.

    He also claimed in this video to be the only perosn living there which other Dobbs video seem to refute

  7. Mike

    05/05/2013 at 6:03 PM

    Problem is Jeff said he heard 2 shots in the first interview and in this interview heard 3 volleys. So which is true?

  8. kyle s.

    05/06/2013 at 9:48 PM

    I need to just seen the stupid film so I can tell you if it’ real or not. Since nobody seems to be able to tell the difference between a costume and reality all of a sudden. I mean sure it’s only a few frames but it can’t be that good! They say the mouth and face move in a way that couldn’t be done with a mask. Well, for a price I’m sure it can be faked pretty well this day and age.
    But if you have a monster chasing you in the dark, there should be some tell-tell signs by the people experiencing it. They can’t act worth a damn and rick can barely read so it’s either obvious or they’re really terrified, which is it? Nothing but bigfoot fanatics have seen the damn movie so they should be able to spot everything remotely suspicious. rick is 99.9% lying his butt off but he swore on his children’s live that he shot a bigfoot. That’s the only reason to still hang onto that .1%, hope. If he’s lying again he should no doubt go to prison for a while.

    • Sas Quatch

      11/25/2013 at 3:05 PM

      kyle s,

      Is English your second language? Did you dictate this comment to a Sasquatch?

      What is so hard about following basic rules of grammar that you feel the need to ignore them?

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  10. the paraclete

    05/13/2013 at 7:45 AM

    What is this guy’s affiliation with the Church of SubGenius?

  11. pappy10

    06/14/2013 at 6:39 PM

    What ever happened to the liar that said he shot and killed a bigfoot?

  12. Dan Meyers

    01/07/2014 at 12:20 PM

    This is all so ridiculous and such a waste of time. Rick Dyer has everyone involved with this and everyone talking and commenting about this eating out of his hand. He is getting his name on Google and his videos on CNN. This is the entire point. Let’s see Bigfoot. If he has shot Bigfoot, he will be an instant millionaire. This is why he is milking this for all he is worth. Enough with the documentaries and talk! If he has Bigfoot, let doctors and anthropologists examine him, PERIOD.

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